Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim

The podcast that gives an exclusive look beyond the title of private lending industry leaders.

Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim

The podcast that gives an exclusive look beyond the title of private lending industry leaders.
Kevin Kim, Esq., is a partner at Fortra Law, an organization that has been serving private lenders for over 10 years. An experienced lending lawyer and engaging speaker, Kevin digs deep with his guests to discover what makes a successful company and leader in this industry. Learn their company stories, wisdom, and what makes these leaders tick through captivating interviews and engaging banter.

Latest Episode

Real Estate Isn’t A Side Hustle

Scott Ward, CEO of Think Realty, joins Kevin Kim to discuss how education, mentorship, and ethical business practices are shaping the future of private lending and real estate investing. Scott shares his journey from private lending into leading Think Realty and explains the organization’s mission to provide practical education and meaningful connections for investors. Kevin and Scott examine the growing institutionalization of private lending, the importance of mentorship, underwriting discipline, fraud prevention, regional lending strategies, insurance education, and borrower expectations. They also discuss how lenders can create long-term relationships by providing value beyond capital and why realistic expectations remain essential for success in today’s market.

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Real Estate Isn’t A Side Hustle

Scott Ward, CEO of Think Realty, joins Kevin Kim to discuss how education, mentorship, and ethical business practices are shaping the future of private lending and real estate investing. Scott shares his journey from private lending into leading Think Realty and explains the organization’s mission to provide practical education and meaningful connections for investors. Kevin and Scott examine the growing institutionalization of private lending, the importance of mentorship, underwriting discipline, fraud prevention, regional lending strategies, insurance education, and borrower expectations. They also discuss how lenders can create long-term relationships by providing value beyond capital and why realistic expectations remain essential for success in today’s market.

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Kevin Kim

Kevin Kim, Esq.

Kevin Kim is a Partner with Fortra Law and leads the firm's corporate & securities practice. His expertise lies in fund formation, private placements, and other securities offerings for private lenders, real estate developers, and investors of all sizes. Kevin and his team have advised and prepared hundreds of securities offerings including mortgage funds, structured debt offerings, real estate syndications, crowdfunding offerings, EB-5 projects, and Qualified Opportunity Funds. Kevin's passion lies in serving his clients as a pragmatic advisor focusing on real world solutions.

Kevin is also a nationally recognized expert in mortgage fund formation. Kevin is the lead instructor for the American Association of Private Lender’s Certified Fund Manager courses, where he teaches mortgage fund managers throughout the United States on fund management and securities laws.

Kevin hosts the podcast Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim, where he interviews industry leaders, friends, and colleagues in the private lending space to learn what makes them tick.

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Previous Episodes

Lender vs. Originator: Why Control of Capital Matters

Ezra Dweck, President and Co-Founder of IceCap Group, joins Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge to discuss the evolution of private lending, the importance of disciplined underwriting, and the changing dynamics of the RTL and DSCR markets. Ezra shares how IceCap began as a family office deploying capital into real estate before transitioning into one of the Northeast’s established private lending platforms. The conversation covers the distinction between being an originator versus a true lender, the role of securitization in creating stable financing, and why maintaining independent decision-making remains central to IceCap’s strategy. Ezra also examines the risks associated with aggressive leverage, valuation concerns, and the growing influence of technology and AI in modern lending operations.

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The Long Game in Private Lending: Building Without Institutional Capital

Chris Haddon and Jason Balin of Hard Money Bankers join Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge to discuss their nearly 20-year journey building a private lending business rooted in conservative underwriting and private capital. Starting in 2007 during the early stages of the financial crisis, they share how they scaled through disciplined deal structures, strong investor relationships, and a focus on long-term sustainability rather than rapid growth. The conversation examines the evolution of private lending, the rise of institutional capital, and the trade-offs between control, volume, and risk. Chris and Jason also break down their approach to maintaining deal flow, adapting to changing markets, and building a lending business that doubles as an investment vehicle.

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From Brokers to Balance Sheet Lenders: The Dynamo Capital Story

Matt Medrano and Justin Rocheleau, co-founders of Dynamo Capital, join Kevin Kim live at Fortra Con in Las Vegas to discuss their rapid rise as a Midwest-based private lender. Starting from residential mortgage and brokerage backgrounds, the duo share how frustrations with traditional lending channels led them to launch their own fund and build a balance sheet lending business. They unpack their evolution from brokering deals to becoming a direct lender, the challenges of operating in overlooked Midwest markets, and their philosophy around autonomy, disciplined underwriting, and borrower relationships. The conversation also explores team building, market expansion, and maintaining consistency while scaling a fast-growing lending platform.

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The Rain City Way: How a Lifestyle Lender Became a National Platform

Fred Rea, Founder of Rain City Capital, and Ian Morrell, Partner since 2013, join Kevin Kim to trace Rain City’s path from courthouse-step hard money lending in Washington to becoming a national private lender. They discuss their early days funding foreclosure auctions, the decision during COVID to expand beyond the Pacific Northwest, and the push to access institutional capital through securitization. The conversation covers growth challenges, lessons learned in DSCR lending, culture-driven leadership, and how Rain City balances portfolio flexibility with scalable capital markets execution.

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Building The Future of Private Lending featuring Linda Hyde

Linda Hyde, President of the American Association of Private Lenders (AAPL), joins Kevin Kim to kick off Season 6 of Lender Lounge. In this episode, Linda shares her journey from leading a call center to spearheading one of the most influential organizations in private lending. She reflects on transforming AAPL from a niche “good old boys club” into a national platform for ethics, education, and advocacy in the industry. The conversation explores the association’s evolution, grassroots legislative efforts, and its commitment to building a more inclusive, accountable private lending community. Linda also offers a behind-the-scenes look at AAPL’s growth, upcoming initiatives, and her personal leadership philosophy.

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Defaults, Discipline, and What Comes Next

2025 in Review with Kevin Kim: Defaults, Discipline, and What Comes Next

In this solo wrap-up episode, Kevin Kim reflects on key trends and challenges the private lending industry faced in 2025 while sharing predictions and recommendations for 2026. From increased borrower fraud and rising defaults in major markets to the growth of in-house servicing and securitization opportunities for independent lenders, Kevin explores how lenders can adapt to shifting conditions. He also emphasizes operational discipline, compliance, and technology adoption—including blockchain and AI—as essential strategies for staying competitive in the year ahead.

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From Regulation to Resilience: How CMA Champions California Lenders

In this episode of Lender Lounge, host Kevin Kim sits down with Brad Laddusaw of S&L Capital Group and Brock VandenBerg of TaliMar Financial for a dynamic discussion on the realities of private lending in California. Both guests bring unique perspectives—Brad as the President of the California Mortgage Association (CMA) and Brock as a seasoned fund manager. They explore topics such as the complexities of lending regulation in California, the role and value of CMA in advocacy and education, the evolution of loan products, and the importance of industry collaboration. The episode offers candid insights into the challenges, nuances, and opportunities in one of the country’s most tightly regulated yet influential lending markets.

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The Benefits of Balance Sheet Lending featuring Wes Carpenter

Wes Carpenter, Managing Partner at Stormfield Capital, joins Kevin Kim in this episode of Lender Lounge. With a background in multifamily investing and over a decade in private lending, Wes shares the unique story of building Stormfield into a contrarian, institutional-grade lender. Unlike many of its peers, Stormfield operates as a true balance sheet lender with no structural leverage or loan sales, holding over $750 million in AUM. Wes discusses the evolution from syndicating hard money deals to launching a fully audited, institutional fund, highlighting their focus on durability, disciplined underwriting, and investor-first principles. The conversation covers market shifts, the rise of securitization, and the long-term outlook for residential and commercial lending.

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From Fighting to Funding with “Sam” Sarkis Chivitchian

“Sam” Sarkis Chivitchian, founder and CEO of Secured Capital Lending, joins Kevin Kim in this episode of Lender Lounge. With over 20 years of experience in real estate and finance and more than 1,200 transactions closed, Sam shares how he transitioned from traditional mortgage lending to building a trusted private lending platform. Secured Capital Lending specializes in private money and hard money loans, including fix and flip, construction, DSCR, commercial bridge, land loans, and asset-based financing.

Sam discusses the evolution of hard money lending, the role of institutional capital, and how discipline, quality, and calculated risk drive success in today’s market. Drawing on his experiences as a real estate broker, fund manager, developer, former UFC fighter, and National Judo Champion, he explains how the principles of martial arts and entrepreneurship inform his approach to investing, lending, and building a business.

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Wall Street Wisdom: Insights From Charlie Woo

Wall Street Wisdom: Insights From Charlie Woo

Charlie Woo, President of Fidelity Bancorp Funding, joins Kevin Kim in this episode of Lender Lounge. With a deep background in investment banking and a pivotal role in past industry-shaping transactions, Charlie shares why he moved from Wall Street to private lending. Fidelity Bridge Loans focuses on small balance bridge loans for commercial real estate with an emphasis on multifamily and business-purpose residential properties. Charlie discusses the firm’s strategic balance between retail and institutional capital, their selective growth into DSCR and construction lending, and the evolving role of capital markets in the sector. The conversation also addresses underwriting discipline, the impact of rising rates, and Fidelity’s vision for long-term, flexible growth.

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Don’t Mess with Texas, Michael Hoffman – Longhorn III

In this episode of Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim, Mike Hoffman, CEO and President of Longhorn Investments, joins Kevin to share his journey into private lending and the growth of Longhorn Investments. Starting from a background in law with no real estate experience, Mike stumbled into the world of hard money lending during the 2008 financial crisis. He shares the origins of Longhorn Investments, its expansion beyond Texas, and the unique challenges of building a successful private lending business. Mike also discusses how the company adapted to market changes, including the decision to start a fund and the impact of institutional competition on their strategy. The conversation dives into the nuances of operating in multiple states, the challenges of raising capital, and the importance of maintaining a solid relationship with investors. Tune in to hear Mike’s insights on navigating the evolving private lending landscape, maintaining discipline, and his perspective on future opportunities.

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“Constructive Conversation” with Ben Fertig, President of Constructive Capital

In this episode of Lender Lounge, Kevin Kim welcomes back Ben Fertig. Ben is the President of Constructive Capital, the leading national capital provider for DSCR Rental Loans and Residential Transitional Loans (RTL or Fix and Flip Loans). Prior to Constructive, Ben led Credit and Asset Management at Finance of America Commercial; and, before that, he served as Chief Operator Officer of Jordan Capital Finance, where he managed originations, credit policy, and capital markets. Ben was instrumental in the sale of the Jordan Capital Finance platform to Blackstone and Finance of America in 2017. Ben began his Mortgage Banking career over 25 years ago and has served in a Senior Leadership role in the Residential Investor Loan Market since 2012.

Ben delves into the rapid growth of Constructive, highlighting the company’s journey from its inception in 2017 to becoming a nine-figure monthly producer. The discussion covers key milestones, strategies for risk management, the importance of capital diversification, and how Constructive navigated the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent market volatility. Ben also shares insights on leadership, the impact of economic cycles on the lending industry, and the increasing importance of managing fraud and maintaining solid client relationships in today’s market.

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First to Market: A Conversation with John Beacham

John Beacham, CEO of Toorak Capital Partners, joins Kevin Kim for a special episode of Lender Lounge, produced in collaboration with the American Association of Private Lenders. John shares his extensive journey in the finance industry, detailing his transition from investment banking to leading one of the most recognized firms in the private lending sector. The discussion covers the evolution of real estate finance, the impact of market crises, and the strategic maneuvers that have shaped Toorak’s success. John is an experienced entrepreneur who has completed more than $50 billion in transactions over his 25-year career and has structured CMBS or financings that were honored with multiple “Deal of the Year” awards. Prior to Toorak, Mr. Beacham was the founder and President of B2R Finance, the leading mortgage origination company focused on the single-family rental (SFR) and residential bridge loan markets. B2R Finance (now Finance of America Commercial) is a Blackstone portfolio company. Before founding B2R SFR platform, Mr. Beacham originated large balance commercial real estate loans in the CMBS group at Deutsche Bank and worked in the financial institution’s investment banking groups at Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse First Boston.

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Kevin Kim Answers Private Lending FAQs + Season 4 Recap

Kevin Kim Answers Private Lending FAQs + Season 4 Recap

In this concluding episode of Season 4, Kevin Kim reflects on the insights gained from our guests and addresses common questions from our listeners, particularly those new to private lending. Kevin discusses licensing for private lenders, emphasizing the variation in requirements across states and the importance of compliance and understanding securities laws, even when raising funds from family and friends. He also explores the challenges and opportunities of raising capital from international investors and the intricacies of fractionalized loans. He shares his observations on the entrepreneurial spirit, discipline, and focus he witnessed in interviews throughout the season. Kevin highlights the importance of adding value to the marketplace, creating a strong team culture, and maintaining financial discipline to ensure the longevity and success of your private lending business.

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A Conversation with Beth O’Brien, Encore Finance

A Conversation with Beth O’Brien, Encore Finance

Beth O’Brien, a dynamic leader and innovator in the private lending industry, joins Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge. With her rich background in law, real estate, and securitization, Beth currently spearheads Encore Finance Capital. Her journey encompasses an impressive trajectory from working at renowned institutions like Goldman Sachs and Citi to pioneering her own private lending ventures. Beth’s strategic insight and deep understanding of the residential and commercial real estate sectors empower her vision at Encore. This conversation expands on the nuances of private lending, the challenges of market volatility, and the evolution of securitization in private lending.

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A Conversation with Adham Sbeih, Socotra Capital

A Conversation with Adham Sbeih, Socotra Capital

In this episode, Kevin Kim and co-host Nema Daghbandan have the pleasure of sitting with Adham Sbeih, CEO of Socotra Capital. With a team of 33 and roughly $500 million in capital distributed across four funds, Socotra Capital has a fluid and dynamic approach to commercial real estate lending. Adham shares his compelling journey, ignited when a bank denied permanent financing for a client’s project, and discusses how he has nurtured an inspiring team culture that defies industry standards. Adham joined Five Star Bank in 2003 as a business development officer and then later FCI Commercial Capital as a commercial real estate lender. The creation of Socotra Capital, however, began in 2007 in anticipation of the credit crunch.

Kevin and Nema dive into Adham’s “all world” roots and learn more about his diverse background and interest ranging from cycling to Toastmasters. In this episode, Adham discusses his distinct business methodologies, the intricacies of strategizing for a company’s future, and an unexpected pastime that led him to train security dogs.

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LL Ask a Private Lending Risk-Taker: Demystifying Fund Creation | Brock VandenBerg & Matt Podesto

Ask a Private Lending Risk-Taker: Demystifying Fund Creation | Brock VandenBerg & Matt Podesto

In this episode, Kevin Kim engages in a dynamic conversation with Matt Podesto and Brock VandenBerg, two successful private lenders who have taken the leap into fund management. From the early days of local hard money lending to the influx of institutional capital and white label programs, our guests provide valuable insights into the changing landscape and how it has affected the present. They emphasize the importance of proper underwriting and servicing while cautioning against entering new transactions without sufficient knowledge. Matt and Brock also share their invaluable personal experiences, mistakes made, and lessons learned, offering an inside look into their journeys. They dive into the challenges of scaling a lending business, the significance of segmenting functions, the importance of choosing the right partners, and the need for good service and ethical lending practices in the industry. Get ready to dive deep in this captivating episode of Lender Lounge.

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A 2024 Crystal Ball Conversation with Fortra Law Leadership

A 2024 Crystal Ball Conversation with Geraci Leadership

The leadership at Fortra Law collectively has decades upon decades of private lending industry experience. For this episode, Kevin asked Geraci’s seasoned professionals to offer their foresight into the private lending industry for 2024 – what does the industry need to know as we head into the new year?

 

Kevin and the Geraci team explore anticipated economic trends, such as preparing for potential litigation challenges and strategizing for effective hiring in the evolving market landscape. They also delve into innovative lending practices tailored for the year ahead, emphasizing the necessity of rigorous risk management, stringent compliance protocols, and more.

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