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Lender vs. Originator: Why Control of Capital Matters
Ezra Dweck, President and Co-Founder of IceCap Group, joins Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge to discuss the evolution of private lending, the importance of disciplined underwriting, and the changing dynamics of the RTL and DSCR markets. Ezra shares how IceCap began as a family office deploying capital into real estate before transitioning into one of the Northeast’s established private lending platforms. The conversation covers the distinction between being an originator versus a true lender, the role of securitization in creating stable financing, and why maintaining independent decision-making remains central to IceCap’s strategy. Ezra also examines the risks associated with aggressive leverage, valuation concerns, and the growing influence of technology and AI in modern lending operations.

Lender vs. Originator: Why Control of Capital Matters
Ezra Dweck, President and Co-Founder of IceCap Group, joins Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge to discuss the evolution of private lending, the importance of disciplined underwriting, and the changing dynamics of the RTL and DSCR markets. Ezra shares how IceCap began as a family office deploying capital into real estate before transitioning into one of the Northeast’s established private lending platforms. The conversation covers the distinction between being an originator versus a true lender, the role of securitization in creating stable financing, and why maintaining independent decision-making remains central to IceCap’s strategy. Ezra also examines the risks associated with aggressive leverage, valuation concerns, and the growing influence of technology and AI in modern lending operations.

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Kevin Kim, Esq.
Kevin Kim is a Partner with Fortra Law and leads the firm's corporate & securities practice. His expertise lies in fund formation, private placements, and other securities offerings for private lenders, real estate developers, and investors of all sizes. Kevin and his team have advised and prepared hundreds of securities offerings including mortgage funds, structured debt offerings, real estate syndications, crowdfunding offerings, EB-5 projects, and Qualified Opportunity Funds. Kevin's passion lies in serving his clients as a pragmatic advisor focusing on real world solutions.
Kevin is also a nationally recognized expert in mortgage fund formation. Kevin is the lead instructor for the American Association of Private Lender’s Certified Fund Manager courses, where he teaches mortgage fund managers throughout the United States on fund management and securities laws.
Kevin hosts the podcast Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim, where he interviews industry leaders, friends, and colleagues in the private lending space to learn what makes them tick.
Previous Episodes
Special Mini Episode | Ruby Keys, Fortra Law
We’re dropping this mini episode in your feed to give some insight into Captivate, Geracicon’s upcoming private lending event. Kevin is joined by Ruby Keys, Geraci’s event extraordinaire, to discuss why it is a perfect opportunity for our listeners. Listen in to learn about the event’s capital-raising theme, nationwide attendee presence, and success stories from past years (including Kevin’s!).
Captivate will take place August 21-23, 2022 at the Encore at Wynn in Las Vegas, NV.
More info and registration can be found at our website: https://geracicon.com/captivate

Passionate Visionary | Trixy Castro, Aureus Finance Group
*NOTE: This episode was recorded in May 2022.*
We are kicking off Season 3 with none other than Trixy Castro, founder and CEO of Aureus Finance Group. We were honored to sit down with this industry legend in person and learn more about Trixy and her history as an entrepreneur founding Genesis Capital and Hudson Marshall in the early days of private lending. We learned all about her new vision for Aureus, including how she approached her re-entry into the market after taking a few years off. Trixy has achieved so much in the industry yet maintains a level of entrepreneurialism and excitement about private lending and what it stands for.
Special LIVE Episode | Mid-Year Outlook with Daren Blomquist & Rick Sharga
The Lender Lounge with Kevin Kim podcast hosted a special livestream featuring industry legends Daren Blomquist, VP of Market Economics at Auction.com and Rick Sharga, Executive Vice President at ATTOM.
Watch the recording of May 18th LIVE episode and hear these industry leaders’ thoughts on housing demand, build to rent, interest rates, inflation, and everyone’s favorite doomsday question: is a recession coming?

Renaissance Man | Dennis Baranowski, Fortra Law
Dennis Baranowski, renowned as The Beard and The Wise One, brings his multi-faceted expertise to the forefront on Season 2’s Finale. A powerhouse in banking and finance, the Fortra Law Partner reveals his mastery in litigation, foreclosure, TCPA, and bankruptcy. As a special treat, Kevin poses questions from some of Dennis’ cherished clients. Don’t miss this episode filled with insights, laughter, and a touch of wisdom to conclude Season 2 on a high note!

The Importance of Data | Sharon Koh, 1839 Asset Management LLC
Ever wondered about the industry’s evolution towards DSCR? Industry veteran, Sharon Koh, co-founder of 1839 Asset Management, shares her insights both on the industry as a whole and 1839’s history in the space. Born in Singapore, Sharon brings over 20 years of project finance, corporate finance and treasury experience ranging from services and manufacturing industries to large scale multi-billion-dollar utility scale energy project finance to the table, making this episode a must-listen.

Deliberate Decisions | Michael Schumacher and Chris Meinhardt, Enact Partners
Michael Schumacher, President and Founder of Enact Partners, is in a league of his own. Having executed over $1 billion in commercial real estate development and investments, Michael offers invaluable perspectives on market trends and loan underwriting. This episode, filmed in Geraci’s Irvine office, focuses on the diverse backgrounds and industry wisdom that Michael and Chris Meinhardt, former U.S. Marine Corps communications officer, bring to Enact Partners.

A True Family Office | Huy Do, PrideCo Capital
While Huy Do is a widely recognized figure in the industry, this episode unveils the compelling narrative behind PrideCo and Huy’s remarkable journey. Dive into the strategic decisions that led PrideCo into the private lending sector, fueled by Huy’s infectious enthusiasm for the industry and a distinctive philosophy intertwining networking, family, and business dynamics. This episode provides a nuanced glimpse into Huy Do’s strategic insights and industry passion, making it a must-listen for those navigating the landscape of private capital.

Competitive Advantage | Dalton Elliott, Lima One Capital
Dalton Elliott, the former driving force behind Lima One Capital’s Sales and Customer Experience, joined Kevin for a rapid-fire chat in this episode. Dalton unveils Lima One’s whirlwind journey—from inception to a recent game-changing acquisition by MFA. Discover their success trifecta: a fierce “Training, Culture, and Growth” mindset. Dalton’s narrative, combined with insights from his Real Estate of Things podcast, offers a compact yet dynamic exploration into Lima One Capital’s high-speed trajectory—a strategic blend of dedication, culture, and an unquenchable thirst for growth in the competitive world of real estate financing.

Private Lending OG | Beth O’Brien, CoreVest Finance
A “Burgers, Fries, and Shakes” mentality has been the key to scaling national private lender CoreVest Finance to great heights. Beth O’Brien, Founder of CoreVest, has been obsessed with offering true cradle-to-grave lending since the company’s founding in 2011 to catapult it through periods of significant growth. In this episode, Beth discusses this consistent focus and how it continues to help the business grow.

Facilitating Deal Flow | Eric Abramovich, Roc360
Eric Abramovich, Co-Founder and CCO of Roc360, takes a trip down memory lane with Kevin, discussing the private lending industry’s evolution from Eric’s perspective and how Roc has grown right alongside it. oc’s holistic approach and drive to be a full-service capital provider to the space has led them to become one of the top lenders in the industry. Kevin and Eric also discussed the challenges in operating a business during COVID in New York.

“Constructive Conversation” with Ben Fertig, President of Constructive Capital
In this episode of Lender Lounge, Kevin Kim welcomes back Ben Fertig. Ben is the President of Constructive Capital, the leading national capital provider for DSCR Rental Loans and Residential Transitional Loans (RTL or Fix and Flip Loans). Prior to Constructive, Ben led Credit and Asset Management at Finance of America Commercial; and, before that, he served as Chief Operator Officer of Jordan Capital Finance, where he managed originations, credit policy, and capital markets. Ben was instrumental in the sale of the Jordan Capital Finance platform to Blackstone and Finance of America in 2017. Ben began his Mortgage Banking career over 25 years ago and has served in a Senior Leadership role in the Residential Investor Loan Market since 2012.
Ben delves into the rapid growth of Constructive, highlighting the company’s journey from its inception in 2017 to becoming a nine-figure monthly producer. The discussion covers key milestones, strategies for risk management, the importance of capital diversification, and how Constructive navigated the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent market volatility. Ben also shares insights on leadership, the impact of economic cycles on the lending industry, and the increasing importance of managing fraud and maintaining solid client relationships in today’s market.

First to Market: A Conversation with John Beacham
John Beacham, CEO of Toorak Capital Partners, joins Kevin Kim for a special episode of Lender Lounge, produced in collaboration with the American Association of Private Lenders. John shares his extensive journey in the finance industry, detailing his transition from investment banking to leading one of the most recognized firms in the private lending sector. The discussion covers the evolution of real estate finance, the impact of market crises, and the strategic maneuvers that have shaped Toorak’s success. John is an experienced entrepreneur who has completed more than $50 billion in transactions over his 25-year career and has structured CMBS or financings that were honored with multiple “Deal of the Year” awards. Prior to Toorak, Mr. Beacham was the founder and President of B2R Finance, the leading mortgage origination company focused on the single-family rental (SFR) and residential bridge loan markets. B2R Finance (now Finance of America Commercial) is a Blackstone portfolio company. Before founding B2R SFR platform, Mr. Beacham originated large balance commercial real estate loans in the CMBS group at Deutsche Bank and worked in the financial institution’s investment banking groups at Deutsche Bank and Credit Suisse First Boston.

Kevin Kim Answers Private Lending FAQs + Season 4 Recap
In this concluding episode of Season 4, Kevin Kim reflects on the insights gained from our guests and addresses common questions from our listeners, particularly those new to private lending. Kevin discusses licensing for private lenders, emphasizing the variation in requirements across states and the importance of compliance and understanding securities laws, even when raising funds from family and friends. He also explores the challenges and opportunities of raising capital from international investors and the intricacies of fractionalized loans. He shares his observations on the entrepreneurial spirit, discipline, and focus he witnessed in interviews throughout the season. Kevin highlights the importance of adding value to the marketplace, creating a strong team culture, and maintaining financial discipline to ensure the longevity and success of your private lending business.

A Conversation with Beth O’Brien, Encore Finance
Beth O’Brien, a dynamic leader and innovator in the private lending industry, joins Kevin Kim on this episode of Lender Lounge. With her rich background in law, real estate, and securitization, Beth currently spearheads Encore Finance Capital. Her journey encompasses an impressive trajectory from working at renowned institutions like Goldman Sachs and Citi to pioneering her own private lending ventures. Beth’s strategic insight and deep understanding of the residential and commercial real estate sectors empower her vision at Encore. This conversation expands on the nuances of private lending, the challenges of market volatility, and the evolution of securitization in private lending.

A Conversation with Adham Sbeih, Socotra Capital
In this episode, Kevin Kim and co-host Nema Daghbandan have the pleasure of sitting with Adham Sbeih, CEO of Socotra Capital. With a team of 33 and roughly $500 million in capital distributed across four funds, Socotra Capital has a fluid and dynamic approach to commercial real estate lending. Adham shares his compelling journey, ignited when a bank denied permanent financing for a client’s project, and discusses how he has nurtured an inspiring team culture that defies industry standards. Adham joined Five Star Bank in 2003 as a business development officer and then later FCI Commercial Capital as a commercial real estate lender. The creation of Socotra Capital, however, began in 2007 in anticipation of the credit crunch.
Kevin and Nema dive into Adham’s “all world” roots and learn more about his diverse background and interest ranging from cycling to Toastmasters. In this episode, Adham discusses his distinct business methodologies, the intricacies of strategizing for a company’s future, and an unexpected pastime that led him to train security dogs.

Ask a Private Lending Risk-Taker: Demystifying Fund Creation | Brock VandenBerg & Matt Podesto
In this episode, Kevin Kim engages in a dynamic conversation with Matt Podesto and Brock VandenBerg, two successful private lenders who have taken the leap into fund management. From the early days of local hard money lending to the influx of institutional capital and white label programs, our guests provide valuable insights into the changing landscape and how it has affected the present. They emphasize the importance of proper underwriting and servicing while cautioning against entering new transactions without sufficient knowledge. Matt and Brock also share their invaluable personal experiences, mistakes made, and lessons learned, offering an inside look into their journeys. They dive into the challenges of scaling a lending business, the significance of segmenting functions, the importance of choosing the right partners, and the need for good service and ethical lending practices in the industry. Get ready to dive deep in this captivating episode of Lender Lounge.

A 2024 Crystal Ball Conversation with Geraci Leadership
The leadership at Fortra Law collectively has decades upon decades of private lending industry experience. For this episode, Kevin asked Geraci’s seasoned professionals to offer their foresight into the private lending industry for 2024 – what does the industry need to know as we head into the new year?
Kevin and the Geraci team explore anticipated economic trends, such as preparing for potential litigation challenges and strategizing for effective hiring in the evolving market landscape. They also delve into innovative lending practices tailored for the year ahead, emphasizing the necessity of rigorous risk management, stringent compliance protocols, and more.

Ask a Private Lending Marketer: Mastering Your Brand | Erica LaCentra & Rocky Butani
For this episode, our host Kevin Kim welcomes industry experts Erica LaCentra and Rocky Butani for a deep dive into the nuanced world of private lending marketing. They highlight the importance of industry conferences and share insights on how emerging companies and entrepreneurs can smartly use marketing to stand out in a crowded field. With a focus on the power of content marketing, targeted email campaigns, and maintaining transparent communication in challenging times, Erica and Rocky offer strategic tips for building brand recognition, nurturing relationships, and succeeding at industry conferences. Settle in as these industry-known marketing experts delve into the practical and technological facets of marketing within the private lending sector.